-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "ambercodered"
> Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long time and
> I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get more and
> more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts with
> a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping me, but
> I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also have a
> few being buried in other countries)
>
> My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-Shirt
> up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and then
> replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-mail me
> the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the year
> I'll give away some cool prizes or something.
>
> Thoughts? Want to help?
>
> I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with some
> awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make it a
> bit more interesting.

That's a really cool idea. Especially the part where you ship a t-shirt via e-mail. :-0
>

"I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. "

Ok THAT I'd like to see!

The best I can do outta my disc drive is waffles or a grilled cheese
sammich. Dat's on a REALLY good day...

pre
Denver

HI Amber,

I'm in Michigan and I would love to do this. I am planning an event that deals with fairies, sprites, and nymphs and one if the things I am doing is making a tiny opening to go with clues to the hidden fairy world. This little shirt would be perfect. I would love to represent Michigan. Email me directly for more as I don;t want to give away to much on the boards.

Andrew
familyof6

ambercodered wrote: Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long time and
I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get more and
more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts with
a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping me, but
I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also have a
few being buried in other countries)

My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-Shirt
up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and then
replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-mail me
the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the year
I'll give away some cool prizes or something.

Thoughts? Want to help?

I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with some
awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make it a
bit more interesting.

To keep anyone from walking away with a T-Shirt, I had the shirts
printed extra small. Believe me, no one will be able to fit into one
of these little fellahs. Besides, why would anyone want to take one
anyway, and ruin the adventure for others? Also if they just find it
and replace it, there's a chance of winning a prize.

Oh, yeah, and for helping me do this I can offer you a free T-shirt,
too, or something. As if the fun of doing it wans't enough!

So ... what do you think?

Feel free to e-mail me directly and let me know what state you are in
and what ideas you have for clues, etc. and we'll try to work
something out.

Maybe I'm koo-koo, but my heart's in the right place, so that counts
for something; right?

Thanks!

Amber






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Count me in, I can do that in Ohio easily.? I'm worried about the shirt picking up a musty smell however.







-----Original Message-----
From: ambercodered
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 7:47 pm
Subject: [LbNA] Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition T-Shirts?

























Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long time and

I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get more and

more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts with

a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping me, but

I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also have a

few being buried in other countries)



My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-Shirt

up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and then

replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-mail me

the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the year

I'll give away some cool prizes or something.



Thoughts? Want to help?



I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with some

awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make it a

bit more interesting.



To keep anyone from walking away with a T-Shirt, I had the shirts

printed extra small. Believe me, no one will be able to fit into one

of these little fellahs. Besides, why would anyone want to take one

anyway, and ruin the adventure for others? Also if they just find it

and replace it, there's a chance of winning a prize.



Oh, yeah, and for helping me do this I can offer you a free T-shirt,

too, or something. As if the fun of doing it wans't enough!



So ... what do you think?



Feel free to e-mail me directly and let me know what state you are in

and what ideas you have for clues, etc. and we'll try to work

something out.



Maybe I'm koo-koo, but my heart's in the right place, so that counts

for something; right?



Thanks!



Amber





















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Oops. I meant I'l MAIL the T-Shirt for you. Yeah, it would be tough
to e-mail a shirt, huh?

By the way, if you have nothing nice to say, please don't say
anything at all. I already generated a great deal of interest by a
whole bunch of people, and I personally got 14 NEW people involved in
Letterboxing simply by talking about this idea, so once again ... if
you have nothing nice to say .... say nothing.

On the other hand, positve ideas and suggestions are always welcome.

Amber














--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ambercodered"
wrote:
>
> Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long time
and
> I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get more
and
> more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts
with
> a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping me,
but
> I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also have
a
> few being buried in other countries)
>
> My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-
Shirt
> up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and then
> replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-mail me
> the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the year
> I'll give away some cool prizes or something.
>
> Thoughts? Want to help?
>
> I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with some
> awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make it a
> bit more interesting.
>
> To keep anyone from walking away with a T-Shirt, I had the shirts
> printed extra small. Believe me, no one will be able to fit into
one
> of these little fellahs. Besides, why would anyone want to take one
> anyway, and ruin the adventure for others? Also if they just find
it
> and replace it, there's a chance of winning a prize.
>
> Oh, yeah, and for helping me do this I can offer you a free T-
shirt,
> too, or something. As if the fun of doing it wans't enough!
>
> So ... what do you think?
>
> Feel free to e-mail me directly and let me know what state you are
in
> and what ideas you have for clues, etc. and we'll try to work
> something out.
>
> Maybe I'm koo-koo, but my heart's in the right place, so that
counts
> for something; right?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Amber
>

Yeah, good point. Any ideas on how to avoid that? Maybe I'll put an air
freshner in there? Maybe if it stays in a seperate sealed freer bag that
won't happen? Also, perhaps we'll remove the shirt at the end of the year
and replace it with a photo of the shirt or a sticker of the shirt's design
or something?

Thanks for the input.

A




On Jan 12, 2008 10:18 AM, wrote:

>
> Count me in, I can do that in Ohio easily.? I'm worried about the shirt
> picking up a musty smell however.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ambercodered >
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 7:47 pm
> Subject: [LbNA] Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition T-Shirts?
>
> Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long time and
>
> I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get more and
>
> more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts with
>
> a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping me, but
>
> I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also have a
>
> few being buried in other countries)
>
> My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-Shirt
>
> up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and then
>
> replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-mail me
>
> the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the year
>
> I'll give away some cool prizes or something.
>
> Thoughts? Want to help?
>
> I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with some
>
> awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make it a
>
> bit more interesting.
>
> To keep anyone from walking away with a T-Shirt, I had the shirts
>
> printed extra small. Believe me, no one will be able to fit into one
>
> of these little fellahs. Besides, why would anyone want to take one
>
> anyway, and ruin the adventure for others? Also if they just find it
>
> and replace it, there's a chance of winning a prize.
>
> Oh, yeah, and for helping me do this I can offer you a free T-shirt,
>
> too, or something. As if the fun of doing it wans't enough!
>
> So ... what do you think?
>
> Feel free to e-mail me directly and let me know what state you are in
>
> and what ideas you have for clues, etc. and we'll try to work
>
> something out.
>
> Maybe I'm koo-koo, but my heart's in the right place, so that counts
>
> for something; right?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Amber
>
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I'm in South Carolina.? I'd be glad to get in on the fun if you need a SC person.? Just let me know.? THere are very few boxes in my immediate area so maybe this would be an incentive to get some people interested.?

On Atlas Quest, I'm listed as the Dawg Pound.? If you aren't familiar with Atlas Quest, check it out!

dawn


-----Original Message-----
From: ambercodered
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 7:47 pm
Subject: [LbNA] Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition T-Shirts?







Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long time and
I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get more and
more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts with
a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping me, but
I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also have a
few being buried in other countries)

My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-Shirt
up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and then
replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-mail me
the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the year
I'll give away some cool prizes or something.

Thoughts? Want to help?

I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with some
awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make it a
bit more interesting.

To keep anyone from walking away with a T-Shirt, I had the shirts
printed extra small. Believe me, no one will be able to fit into one
of these little fellahs. Besides, why would anyone want to take one
anyway, and ruin the adventure for others? Also if they just find it
and replace it, there's a chance of winning a prize.

Oh, yeah, and for helping me do this I can offer you a free T-shirt,
too, or something. As if the fun of doing it wans't enough!

So ... what do you think?

Feel free to e-mail me directly and let me know what state you are in
and what ideas you have for clues, etc. and we'll try to work
something out.

Maybe I'm koo-koo, but my heart's in the right place, so that counts
for something; right?

Thanks!

Amber





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Well, Mr. Negative, for starters the shirt won't be tiny. They are SMALL
shirts. That's all.

Second, a lot of people are already excited about it. Many of whom never
even heard of Letterboxing until I told them about it when I mentioned my
idea.

Thirs, what do you mean, "it ain't T-Shirt boxing." When was the last time
you saw a "Letter" in a Letterbox. Fact is, everyone is entitled to have fun
with this. Putting the T-SHirt in there is no different than anything else.
Thereason for the shirt is to give people something they can hold up to take
a photo with, and be big enough that people can put their signature stmap
on.

Fourth, can you kindly contribute something constructive or positve?
Insulting people doens't reflect well on the source.

Thanks.

A

On Jan 11, 2008 10:49 PM, MTCobra wrote:

> Let me be the first to assure you that you are koo-koo. How can burying
> tiny t-shirts get more people involved in letterboxing? It aint T-shirt
> boxing. The State of Illinois, at least the parts that mtcobras in, will
> pass on this.
>
>
> On 1/11/08 6:47 PM, "ambercodered" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long time and
> > I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get more and
> > more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts with
> > a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping me, but
> > I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also have a
> > few being buried in other countries)
> >
> > My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-Shirt
> > up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and then
> > replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-mail me
> > the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the year
> > I'll give away some cool prizes or something.
> >
> > Thoughts? Want to help?
> >
> > I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with some
> > awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make it a
> > bit more interesting.
> >
> > To keep anyone from walking away with a T-Shirt, I had the shirts
> > printed extra small. Believe me, no one will be able to fit into one
> > of these little fellahs. Besides, why would anyone want to take one
> > anyway, and ruin the adventure for others? Also if they just find it
> > and replace it, there's a chance of winning a prize.
> >
> > Oh, yeah, and for helping me do this I can offer you a free T-shirt,
> > too, or something. As if the fun of doing it wans't enough!
> >
> > So ... what do you think?
> >
> > Feel free to e-mail me directly and let me know what state you are in
> > and what ideas you have for clues, etc. and we'll try to work
> > something out.
> >
> > Maybe I'm koo-koo, but my heart's in the right place, so that counts
> > for something; right?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Amber
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home, and when he grows up
> hell never be able to merge his car onto the freeway.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Chill, my friend. I meant MAIL.


--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, millwright102@... wrote:
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "ambercodered"
> > Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long time
and
> > I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get more
and
> > more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts
with
> > a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping me,
but
> > I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also
have a
> > few being buried in other countries)
> >
> > My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-
Shirt
> > up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and
then
> > replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-mail
me
> > the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the year
> > I'll give away some cool prizes or something.
> >
> > Thoughts? Want to help?
> >
> > I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with some
> > awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make it
a
> > bit more interesting.
>
> That's a really cool idea. Especially the part where you ship a t-
shirt via e-mail. :-0
> >
>

Good point. Any ideas on how to keep that from happening? Either
include an air freshner or maybe keep the shirt sealed in a seperate
freezer bag?

Also, the shirts will be removed in 6-12 months and cna be replaced
by a photo or sticker that represents the shirts.

Thoughts?

A



--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, RMORGAN762@... wrote:
>
>
> Count me in, I can do that in Ohio easily.? I'm worried about the
shirt picking up a musty smell however.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ambercodered
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 7:47 pm
> Subject: [LbNA] Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition T-
Shirts?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long time
and
>
> I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get more
and
>
> more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts
with
>
> a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping me,
but
>
> I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also have
a
>
> few being buried in other countries)
>
>
>
> My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-
Shirt
>
> up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and then
>
> replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-mail me
>
> the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the year
>
> I'll give away some cool prizes or something.
>
>
>
> Thoughts? Want to help?
>
>
>
> I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with some
>
> awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make it a
>
> bit more interesting.
>
>
>
> To keep anyone from walking away with a T-Shirt, I had the shirts
>
> printed extra small. Believe me, no one will be able to fit into
one
>
> of these little fellahs. Besides, why would anyone want to take one
>
> anyway, and ruin the adventure for others? Also if they just find
it
>
> and replace it, there's a chance of winning a prize.
>
>
>
> Oh, yeah, and for helping me do this I can offer you a free T-
shirt,
>
> too, or something. As if the fun of doing it wans't enough!
>
>
>
> So ... what do you think?
>
>
>
> Feel free to e-mail me directly and let me know what state you are
in
>
> and what ideas you have for clues, etc. and we'll try to work
>
> something out.
>
>
>
> Maybe I'm koo-koo, but my heart's in the right place, so that
counts
>
> for something; right?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Amber
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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If you don't have anything nice to say, please don't reply. What is
the purpose of being negative? Beside,s I have ten people in Chicago
that already offered to help.

Also, simplytalking about this idea with people has already gotten a
bunch of people I know to now know about Letterboxing, who nver heard
of it befre and now are off on their own adventures. What could
possibly motivate you to make asusmptions about what will or will not
get people involved in letterboxing? I bet if 100 pople were asked,
there would be 100 different ways people found out about it and got
involved in it.

My idea is just to do something different and fun. So far, people
really seem to like the idea, which is great. This is TEAM work.







--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, MTCobra wrote:
>
> Let me be the first to assure you that you are koo-koo. How can
burying
> tiny t-shirts get more people involved in letterboxing? It aint T-
shirt
> boxing. The State of Illinois, at least the parts that mtcobras
in, will
> pass on this.
>
>
> On 1/11/08 6:47 PM, "ambercodered" wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long time
and
> > I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get more
and
> > more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts
with
> > a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping me,
but
> > I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also
have a
> > few being buried in other countries)
> >
> > My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-
Shirt
> > up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and then
> > replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-mail
me
> > the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the year
> > I'll give away some cool prizes or something.
> >
> > Thoughts? Want to help?
> >
> > I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with some
> > awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make it
a
> > bit more interesting.
> >
> > To keep anyone from walking away with a T-Shirt, I had the shirts
> > printed extra small. Believe me, no one will be able to fit into
one
> > of these little fellahs. Besides, why would anyone want to take
one
> > anyway, and ruin the adventure for others? Also if they just find
it
> > and replace it, there's a chance of winning a prize.
> >
> > Oh, yeah, and for helping me do this I can offer you a free T-
shirt,
> > too, or something. As if the fun of doing it wans't enough!
> >
> > So ... what do you think?
> >
> > Feel free to e-mail me directly and let me know what state you
are in
> > and what ideas you have for clues, etc. and we'll try to work
> > something out.
> >
> > Maybe I'm koo-koo, but my heart's in the right place, so that
counts
> > for something; right?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Amber
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home, and when he
grows up
> hell never be able to merge his car onto the freeway.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

MAILED.





--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, millwright102@... wrote:
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "ambercodered"
> > Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long time
and
> > I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get more
and
> > more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts
with
> > a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping me,
but
> > I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also
have a
> > few being buried in other countries)
> >
> > My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-
Shirt
> > up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and
then
> > replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-mail
me
> > the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the year
> > I'll give away some cool prizes or something.
> >
> > Thoughts? Want to help?
> >
> > I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with some
> > awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make it
a
> > bit more interesting.
>
> That's a really cool idea. Especially the part where you ship a t-
shirt via e-mail. :-0
> >
>

Oh, yeah, and they won't be TINY shirts ... they'll be sizes that
just won't fit people as if they bought it in the store. Some will be
YOUTH, others will be SMALL.










--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, MTCobra wrote:
>
> Let me be the first to assure you that you are koo-koo. How can
burying
> tiny t-shirts get more people involved in letterboxing? It aint T-
shirt
> boxing. The State of Illinois, at least the parts that mtcobras
in, will
> pass on this.
>
>
> On 1/11/08 6:47 PM, "ambercodered" wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long time
and
> > I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get more
and
> > more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts
with
> > a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping me,
but
> > I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also
have a
> > few being buried in other countries)
> >
> > My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-
Shirt
> > up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and then
> > replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-mail
me
> > the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the year
> > I'll give away some cool prizes or something.
> >
> > Thoughts? Want to help?
> >
> > I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with some
> > awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make it
a
> > bit more interesting.
> >
> > To keep anyone from walking away with a T-Shirt, I had the shirts
> > printed extra small. Believe me, no one will be able to fit into
one
> > of these little fellahs. Besides, why would anyone want to take
one
> > anyway, and ruin the adventure for others? Also if they just find
it
> > and replace it, there's a chance of winning a prize.
> >
> > Oh, yeah, and for helping me do this I can offer you a free T-
shirt,
> > too, or something. As if the fun of doing it wans't enough!
> >
> > So ... what do you think?
> >
> > Feel free to e-mail me directly and let me know what state you
are in
> > and what ideas you have for clues, etc. and we'll try to work
> > something out.
> >
> > Maybe I'm koo-koo, but my heart's in the right place, so that
counts
> > for something; right?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Amber
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home, and when he
grows up
> hell never be able to merge his car onto the freeway.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Would incorporating some of this little packages of silica gel, or
whatever it is, that you find in new shoe boxes and the like? Maybe
also in a storage bag with a seal. Probably not totally air tight to
allow it to breathe.

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ambercodered"
wrote:
>
> Good point. Any ideas on how to keep that from happening? Either
> include an air freshner or maybe keep the shirt sealed in a seperate
> freezer bag?
>
> Also, the shirts will be removed in 6-12 months and cna be replaced
> by a photo or sticker that represents the shirts.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> A
>
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, RMORGAN762@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Count me in, I can do that in Ohio easily.? I'm worried about the
> shirt picking up a musty smell however.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ambercodered
> > To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 7:47 pm
> > Subject: [LbNA] Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition T-
> Shirts?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long time
> and
> >
> > I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get more
> and
> >
> > more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts
> with
> >
> > a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping me,
> but
> >
> > I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also have
> a
> >
> > few being buried in other countries)
> >
> >
> >
> > My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-
> Shirt
> >
> > up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and then
> >
> > replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-mail me
> >
> > the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the year
> >
> > I'll give away some cool prizes or something.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thoughts? Want to help?
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with some
> >
> > awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make it a
> >
> > bit more interesting.
> >
> >
> >
> > To keep anyone from walking away with a T-Shirt, I had the shirts
> >
> > printed extra small. Believe me, no one will be able to fit into
> one
> >
> > of these little fellahs. Besides, why would anyone want to take one
> >
> > anyway, and ruin the adventure for others? Also if they just find
> it
> >
> > and replace it, there's a chance of winning a prize.
> >
> >
> >
> > Oh, yeah, and for helping me do this I can offer you a free T-
> shirt,
> >
> > too, or something. As if the fun of doing it wans't enough!
> >
> >
> >
> > So ... what do you think?
> >
> >
> >
> > Feel free to e-mail me directly and let me know what state you are
> in
> >
> > and what ideas you have for clues, etc. and we'll try to work
> >
> > something out.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe I'm koo-koo, but my heart's in the right place, so that
> counts
> >
> > for something; right?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > Amber
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ______________________________________________________________________
> __
> > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! -
> http://webmail.aol.com
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Hi, Amber,



So the shirt would basically BE the logbook?



Perhaps, we can carve a stamp to go with it and we can make it an "official"
letterbox?



If so, count me in for NJ!



Ed Bindler

HikerGuyEd



"The only thing permanent is change. All else is iffy."
--Buddha







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Great idea! Geez, now I have to go pout and buy a bunch of shoes to
get 'em, huh?

Hmmmm .... maybe Target sells something like that?





--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "egami_esrever"
wrote:
>
> Would incorporating some of this little packages of silica gel, or
> whatever it is, that you find in new shoe boxes and the like? Maybe
> also in a storage bag with a seal. Probably not totally air tight to
> allow it to breathe.
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ambercodered"
> wrote:
> >
> > Good point. Any ideas on how to keep that from happening? Either
> > include an air freshner or maybe keep the shirt sealed in a
seperate
> > freezer bag?
> >
> > Also, the shirts will be removed in 6-12 months and cna be
replaced
> > by a photo or sticker that represents the shirts.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > A
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, RMORGAN762@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Count me in, I can do that in Ohio easily.? I'm worried about
the
> > shirt picking up a musty smell however.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ambercodered
> > > To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 7:47 pm
> > > Subject: [LbNA] Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition
T-
> > Shirts?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long
time
> > and
> > >
> > > I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get
more
> > and
> > >
> > > more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts
> > with
> > >
> > > a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping
me,
> > but
> > >
> > > I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also
have
> > a
> > >
> > > few being buried in other countries)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-
> > Shirt
> > >
> > > up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and
then
> > >
> > > replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-
mail me
> > >
> > > the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the
year
> > >
> > > I'll give away some cool prizes or something.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thoughts? Want to help?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with
some
> > >
> > > awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make
it a
> > >
> > > bit more interesting.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To keep anyone from walking away with a T-Shirt, I had the
shirts
> > >
> > > printed extra small. Believe me, no one will be able to fit
into
> > one
> > >
> > > of these little fellahs. Besides, why would anyone want to take
one
> > >
> > > anyway, and ruin the adventure for others? Also if they just
find
> > it
> > >
> > > and replace it, there's a chance of winning a prize.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh, yeah, and for helping me do this I can offer you a free T-
> > shirt,
> > >
> > > too, or something. As if the fun of doing it wans't enough!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So ... what do you think?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Feel free to e-mail me directly and let me know what state you
are
> > in
> > >
> > > and what ideas you have for clues, etc. and we'll try to work
> > >
> > > something out.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe I'm koo-koo, but my heart's in the right place, so that
> > counts
> > >
> > > for something; right?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Amber
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
______________________________________________________________________
> > __
> > > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! -
> > http://webmail.aol.com
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

Ed:

Yes! Now THAT'S cool! Yes, the SHIRT is the LOGBOOK. You get it and
you got it.

Awesome!

A


--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> Hi, Amber,
>
>
>
> So the shirt would basically BE the logbook?
>
>
>
> Perhaps, we can carve a stamp to go with it and we can make it
an "official"
> letterbox?
>
>
>
> If so, count me in for NJ!
>
>
>
> Ed Bindler
>
> HikerGuyEd
>
>
>
> "The only thing permanent is change. All else is iffy."
> --Buddha
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I have no idea offhand, although I would venture to guess that those
receiving shirts would be able to stumble across some in their closets
or in recent purchases...if I find them for sale in mini-bulk
quantities I'll shoot you the link.

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ambercodered"
wrote:
>
> Great idea! Geez, now I have to go pout and buy a bunch of shoes to
> get 'em, huh?
>
> Hmmmm .... maybe Target sells something like that?
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "egami_esrever"
> wrote:
> >
> > Would incorporating some of this little packages of silica gel, or
> > whatever it is, that you find in new shoe boxes and the like? Maybe
> > also in a storage bag with a seal. Probably not totally air tight to
> > allow it to breathe.
> >
> > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ambercodered"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Good point. Any ideas on how to keep that from happening? Either
> > > include an air freshner or maybe keep the shirt sealed in a
> seperate
> > > freezer bag?
> > >
> > > Also, the shirts will be removed in 6-12 months and cna be
> replaced
> > > by a photo or sticker that represents the shirts.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > A
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, RMORGAN762@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Count me in, I can do that in Ohio easily.? I'm worried about
> the
> > > shirt picking up a musty smell however.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ambercodered
> > > > To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 7:47 pm
> > > > Subject: [LbNA] Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition
> T-
> > > Shirts?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long
> time
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get
> more
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts
> > > with
> > > >
> > > > a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping
> me,
> > > but
> > > >
> > > > I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also
> have
> > > a
> > > >
> > > > few being buried in other countries)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-
> > > Shirt
> > > >
> > > > up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and
> then
> > > >
> > > > replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-
> mail me
> > > >
> > > > the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the
> year
> > > >
> > > > I'll give away some cool prizes or something.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts? Want to help?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with
> some
> > > >
> > > > awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make
> it a
> > > >
> > > > bit more interesting.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To keep anyone from walking away with a T-Shirt, I had the
> shirts
> > > >
> > > > printed extra small. Believe me, no one will be able to fit
> into
> > > one
> > > >
> > > > of these little fellahs. Besides, why would anyone want to take
> one
> > > >
> > > > anyway, and ruin the adventure for others? Also if they just
> find
> > > it
> > > >
> > > > and replace it, there's a chance of winning a prize.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh, yeah, and for helping me do this I can offer you a free T-
> > > shirt,
> > > >
> > > > too, or something. As if the fun of doing it wans't enough!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So ... what do you think?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Feel free to e-mail me directly and let me know what state you
> are
> > > in
> > > >
> > > > and what ideas you have for clues, etc. and we'll try to work
> > > >
> > > > something out.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Maybe I'm koo-koo, but my heart's in the right place, so that
> > > counts
> > > >
> > > > for something; right?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Amber
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> ______________________________________________________________________
> > > __
> > > > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! -
> > > http://webmail.aol.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Here is a site for those packs...www.silicagelpackets.com


----- Original Message ----
From: egami_esrever
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 10:14:38 AM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition T-Shirts?














Would incorporating some of this little packages of silica gel, or

whatever it is, that you find in new shoe boxes and the like? Maybe

also in a storage bag with a seal. Probably not totally air tight to

allow it to breathe.



--- In letterbox-usa@ yahoogroups. com, "ambercodered"

wrote:

>

> Good point. Any ideas on how to keep that from happening? Either

> include an air freshner or maybe keep the shirt sealed in a seperate

> freezer bag?

>

> Also, the shirts will be removed in 6-12 months and cna be replaced

> by a photo or sticker that represents the shirts.

>

> Thoughts?

>

> A

>

>

>

> --- In letterbox-usa@ yahoogroups. com, RMORGAN762@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Count me in, I can do that in Ohio easily.? I'm worried about the

> shirt picking up a musty smell however.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: ambercodered

> > To: letterbox-usa@ yahoogroups. com

> > Sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 7:47 pm

> > Subject: [LbNA] Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition T-

> Shirts?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long time

> and

> >

> > I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get more

> and

> >

> > more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts

> with

> >

> > a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping me,

> but

> >

> > I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also have

> a

> >

> > few being buried in other countries)

> >

> >

> >

> > My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-

> Shirt

> >

> > up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and then

> >

> > replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-mail me

> >

> > the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the year

> >

> > I'll give away some cool prizes or something.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thoughts? Want to help?

> >

> >

> >

> > I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with some

> >

> > awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make it a

> >

> > bit more interesting.

> >

> >

> >

> > To keep anyone from walking away with a T-Shirt, I had the shirts

> >

> > printed extra small. Believe me, no one will be able to fit into

> one

> >

> > of these little fellahs. Besides, why would anyone want to take one

> >

> > anyway, and ruin the adventure for others? Also if they just find

> it

> >

> > and replace it, there's a chance of winning a prize.

> >

> >

> >

> > Oh, yeah, and for helping me do this I can offer you a free T-

> shirt,

> >

> > too, or something. As if the fun of doing it wans't enough!

> >

> >

> >

> > So ... what do you think?

> >

> >

> >

> > Feel free to e-mail me directly and let me know what state you are

> in

> >

> > and what ideas you have for clues, etc. and we'll try to work

> >

> > something out.

> >

> >

> >

> > Maybe I'm koo-koo, but my heart's in the right place, so that

> counts

> >

> > for something; right?

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> > Amber

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

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Please rethink the idea of BURYING a t-shirt. We profess "leave no
trace," and no burying letterboxes. I hate to think our beloved hobby
would get a black eye. It's a nice idea, but I don't like the idea of
using letterboxing as the conduit.

~speedsquare


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--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ambercodered"
wrote:
>
> If you don't have anything nice to say, please don't reply. What is
> the purpose of being negative?

In your original post you wrote "Thoughts? Want to help?, "So...What
do you think?"

Now you want to eliminate any negative responses!

Seems to me you want to get only the input you want!

Posting on this board does require a bit of realization that you may
not always get the answers you like.

Sorry but I think the idea is pretty lame, and your only wanting
those positive replys is pretty naive.

This is after all a Letterboxing Chatlist geared toward
communication regarding letterboxing. That "communication" doesn't
necessarily mean only "positive" communication.

Don

On Jan 12, 2008, at 2:42 PM, gwendontoo wrote:

> In your original post you wrote "Thoughts? Want to help?, "So...What
> do you think?"
>
> Now you want to eliminate any negative responses!


"It's not what you say, but how you say it" that counts.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

But that's not what the original poster complained about. Amber said:

"By the way, if you have nothing nice to say, please don't say
anything at all. I already generated a great deal of interest by a
whole bunch of people, and I personally got 14 NEW people involved in
Letterboxing simply by talking about this idea, so once again ... if
you have nothing nice to say .... say nothing.

On the other hand, positve ideas and suggestions are always welcome."

This is basically saying that if a person is going to post a reply with
ANYthing negative, regardless of delivery, they shouldn't post it. Nice try
but that ain't gonna happen on this list. :-)

Maybe try the newboxers list?

I was rather shocked myself with the idea of "burying" t-shirts since
"burying" isn't what letterboxing is really about. In my opinion. But then
I wouldn't want to be called elitist by those who may now be into carrying
around shovels for burying and unburying letterboxes and t-shirts. :-)

My Cockapoo (The Princess) and Pug (Her Pea) are both excited about the idea
tho...........of course, being rather small in stature, they're figuring on
just stealing the t-shirts since I refuse to buy them any fancy doggie
fashionwear. So I'll be busy trying to explain to them that t-shirts are
not the latest thing in first finder certificates. They respectfully
suggest that you consider also burying a knucklebone or two. They figure
that if they get the t-shirt, Elmer the Redbone Coonhound should get
something good too and a buried knucklebone is the best kind of knucklebone.
They add that, of course, whatever box they go in search of will have to
contain TWO t-shirts because while The Pea doesn't mind sharing at all, The
Princess does NOT do sharing.

~~ Mosey ~~


-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LeslieCefali
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 2:46 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition
T-Shirts?



On Jan 12, 2008, at 2:42 PM, gwendontoo wrote:

> In your original post you wrote "Thoughts? Want to help?, "So...What
> do you think?"
>
> Now you want to eliminate any negative responses!


"It's not what you say, but how you say it" that counts.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




Yahoo! Groups Links

On Jan 12, 2008, at 4:54 PM, xxxxxxxx wrote:

> But that's not what the original poster complained about. Amber said:


...but she said that in response to a rather negative reply that
could have just as easily stated that he/she had no interest.
The reply could have been stated a bit more nicely.

so to quote another "if you can't say anything nice, say nothing at
all."
One can say they have no interest in a polite way.




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, LeslieCefali wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2008, at 2:42 PM, gwendontoo wrote:
>
> > In your original post you wrote "Thoughts? Want to help?, "So...What
> > do you think?"
> >
> > Now you want to eliminate any negative responses!
>
>
> "It's not what you say, but how you say it" that counts.

She was pretty explicit that she wanted some input. Then changed that
to only positive input. That is being pretty naive. Particularly on
this list.
Letterboxers are probably the most independent and oppinionated bunch
of folks I know. If you ask "What do you think about_____?" you are
going to get a wealth of responses on both sides of an issue about
letterboxing.
Being too PC on some subjects just doesn't seem to fit.
Calling the idea "Lame" may not be PC, but atleast she has a clear
understanding of my viewpoint.

Don

I think any reply is fine as long as it is "constructive." being
negative and insulting an idea doesn't make sense to anyone.





--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "gwendontoo"
wrote:
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ambercodered"
> wrote:
> >
> > If you don't have anything nice to say, please don't reply. What
is
> > the purpose of being negative?
>
> In your original post you wrote "Thoughts? Want to
help?, "So...What
> do you think?"
>
> Now you want to eliminate any negative responses!
>
> Seems to me you want to get only the input you want!
>
> Posting on this board does require a bit of realization that you
may
> not always get the answers you like.
>
> Sorry but I think the idea is pretty lame, and your only wanting
> those positive replys is pretty naive.
>
> This is after all a Letterboxing Chatlist geared toward
> communication regarding letterboxing. That "communication" doesn't
> necessarily mean only "positive" communication.
>
> Don
>

Well, no one really has to "bury" the Letterbox with the T-Shirt
inside. I thought most people would understsad that it should be
treated the same as any other Letterbox. Maybe HIDE is a better word?
But, honestly, isn't hiding it under a bunch of twigs and
leaves "burying" it. Geez, we can go over these definitions forever.




--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "xxxxxxxx"
wrote:
>
> But that's not what the original poster complained about. Amber
said:
>
> "By the way, if you have nothing nice to say, please don't say
> anything at all. I already generated a great deal of interest by a
> whole bunch of people, and I personally got 14 NEW people involved
in
> Letterboxing simply by talking about this idea, so once again ... if
> you have nothing nice to say .... say nothing.
>
> On the other hand, positve ideas and suggestions are always
welcome."
>
> This is basically saying that if a person is going to post a reply
with
> ANYthing negative, regardless of delivery, they shouldn't post it.
Nice try
> but that ain't gonna happen on this list. :-)
>
> Maybe try the newboxers list?
>
> I was rather shocked myself with the idea of "burying" t-shirts
since
> "burying" isn't what letterboxing is really about. In my opinion.
But then
> I wouldn't want to be called elitist by those who may now be into
carrying
> around shovels for burying and unburying letterboxes and t-
shirts. :-)
>
> My Cockapoo (The Princess) and Pug (Her Pea) are both excited about
the idea
> tho...........of course, being rather small in stature, they're
figuring on
> just stealing the t-shirts since I refuse to buy them any fancy
doggie
> fashionwear. So I'll be busy trying to explain to them that t-
shirts are
> not the latest thing in first finder certificates. They
respectfully
> suggest that you consider also burying a knucklebone or two. They
figure
> that if they get the t-shirt, Elmer the Redbone Coonhound should get
> something good too and a buried knucklebone is the best kind of
knucklebone.
> They add that, of course, whatever box they go in search of will
have to
> contain TWO t-shirts because while The Pea doesn't mind sharing at
all, The
> Princess does NOT do sharing.
>
> ~~ Mosey ~~
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LeslieCefali
> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 2:46 PM
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [LbNA] Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition
> T-Shirts?
>
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2008, at 2:42 PM, gwendontoo wrote:
>
> > In your original post you wrote "Thoughts? Want to
help?, "So...What
> > do you think?"
> >
> > Now you want to eliminate any negative responses!
>
>
> "It's not what you say, but how you say it" that counts.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

HIDE. Use watever definition you want. I mean, I didn't really expect
anyone to grab shovels and start digging 6 ft graves for the shirt.

This IS the best conduit for this idea because the clues can be placed
on websites that people interested in Letterboxing and Geocaching check
out. After all, who else would be interested in doing this?






--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, ruhlette wrote:
>
> Please rethink the idea of BURYING a t-shirt. We profess "leave no
> trace," and no burying letterboxes. I hate to think our beloved hobby
> would get a black eye. It's a nice idea, but I don't like the idea of
> using letterboxing as the conduit.
>
> ~speedsquare
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
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>

> Maybe HIDE is a better word?

"Plant" seems to have been the jargon settled upon, at
least in my small, perhaps out of touch view of this
world and its linguistic evolution.

> Geez, we can go over these definitions forever.

We could. Or, we could spend more time discussing the
discussion of the idea than the idea. Whether or not the
fact that we are doing so speaks to either the quality of
the idea or the quality of the discussers is left to the
role of the reader.

I'll admit that I am personally always taken aback by the
suggestion that this idea or that idea is not "letterboxing",
keeping in mind that the original letterbox didn't even
contain stamps, much less the boundaries some people like to
draw around hand-carved, bespoke, or otherwise. Me, I hate
boundaries, but that's just me. Why is Jan 12th, 2008, the
right date to bound the game on this line? Perhaps Jan 12th,
1860 should have been the day to bound it that it shall
contain nothing but a logbook :-) (That would have helped
people like me who don't really care all that much about
stamp art or creating it, yet still want to find a way to
enjoy this sort of activity anyway).

The meme market will mercilessly kill lame ideas on its
own -- no need to arbitrarily draw boundaries; doing so makes
one come off as narrow-minded, self-important, and parochial,
at least to me, and being snooty or nasty in the process only
makes it look even sillier. JMHO, of course. How's that for
not being PC? (One thing I hope we all can agree on is that
we need less PC BS and more frank discourse; Human linguistics
makes being PC impossible anyway (both the literature
and the archive of mapsurferspeak will demonstrate from a
linguistics point of view why this is so -- at least if one
accepts the general gist of the arguments from the "East Pole"
school of thought, or, perhaps, even not, but they are so
compelling, how can you not?)).

Anyway, I try to avoid terms like "letterboxing" and
"letterboxes" just for these reasons -- modern "letterboxers"
have bounded them with so much baggage and boundaries. Avoid
those terms, and you can do what you want, and no one will
get in your face about it. That's my experience, anyway. Call
them "shirtboxes", and people will leave you alone for sure,
since it seems clear that negative, non-constructive answers
are not desired; yet sometimes, in some peoples' minds,
negative, non-constructive answers are warranted (but, IMHO
these generally play better off-list). I mean, I think it
is ok to say -- "I really don't like the idea, and don't really
have any suggestions, sorry.". Most people, however, tend to
keep to themselves when they have such opinions, or find a
nice or subtle way to convey them.

And furthermore, I would avoid the term "bury", because it
ain't PC :-) despite the fact that there seems scant
difference between moving rocks around and moving dirt around,
and 99% of the environmental damage done is placing
non-biodegradable trash in the environment, regardless of how
it is concealed. Of course, the arguments for bury, which
you never hear, are that it is less prone to becoming visible
trash, and less likely to result in visibly destructive
"hack searches". But I will not even hint a pro-bury platform
here, as doing so will generate more flames than walking into
a dungeon full of red dragons, and lord knows, the list don't
need that, does it?

And, of course, it wouldn't be a mapsurferspeak post without
mentioning the word semiotics.

Cheers
Randy

Thanks, Randy, for taking the time and effort to write such an
intelligent and well-intentioned reply.

OK, well, it does seem impossible that anyone in the world can make
everyone happy, so I guess I can just keep changing the words that I
have used that people don't seem to like, so, if ayone would like to
be part of "planting" T-Shirt boxes, where the T-HSirt is the actual
log book and wants to be part of somehting a little different (that
includes sharing this idea with others and you yourself following
clues and maybe finding one .... then everyone is welcome to keep in
touch with me, or just check in and see how it's comng along ... and
let's see if we can all do continue to try to different things to
keep the adventures fresh and exciting for all.

Thanks, everyone for their feedback. And as for those who have kindly
touched base and offered to help --- I'll e-mail ya in a day or so,
OK?

xo

Amber




--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Randy Hall wrote:
>
>
> > Maybe HIDE is a better word?
>
> "Plant" seems to have been the jargon settled upon, at
> least in my small, perhaps out of touch view of this
> world and its linguistic evolution.
>
> > Geez, we can go over these definitions forever.
>
> We could. Or, we could spend more time discussing the
> discussion of the idea than the idea. Whether or not the
> fact that we are doing so speaks to either the quality of
> the idea or the quality of the discussers is left to the
> role of the reader.
>
> I'll admit that I am personally always taken aback by the
> suggestion that this idea or that idea is not "letterboxing",
> keeping in mind that the original letterbox didn't even
> contain stamps, much less the boundaries some people like to
> draw around hand-carved, bespoke, or otherwise. Me, I hate
> boundaries, but that's just me. Why is Jan 12th, 2008, the
> right date to bound the game on this line? Perhaps Jan 12th,
> 1860 should have been the day to bound it that it shall
> contain nothing but a logbook :-) (That would have helped
> people like me who don't really care all that much about
> stamp art or creating it, yet still want to find a way to
> enjoy this sort of activity anyway).
>
> The meme market will mercilessly kill lame ideas on its
> own -- no need to arbitrarily draw boundaries; doing so makes
> one come off as narrow-minded, self-important, and parochial,
> at least to me, and being snooty or nasty in the process only
> makes it look even sillier. JMHO, of course. How's that for
> not being PC? (One thing I hope we all can agree on is that
> we need less PC BS and more frank discourse; Human linguistics
> makes being PC impossible anyway (both the literature
> and the archive of mapsurferspeak will demonstrate from a
> linguistics point of view why this is so -- at least if one
> accepts the general gist of the arguments from the "East Pole"
> school of thought, or, perhaps, even not, but they are so
> compelling, how can you not?)).
>
> Anyway, I try to avoid terms like "letterboxing" and
> "letterboxes" just for these reasons -- modern "letterboxers"
> have bounded them with so much baggage and boundaries. Avoid
> those terms, and you can do what you want, and no one will
> get in your face about it. That's my experience, anyway. Call
> them "shirtboxes", and people will leave you alone for sure,
> since it seems clear that negative, non-constructive answers
> are not desired; yet sometimes, in some peoples' minds,
> negative, non-constructive answers are warranted (but, IMHO
> these generally play better off-list). I mean, I think it
> is ok to say -- "I really don't like the idea, and don't really
> have any suggestions, sorry.". Most people, however, tend to
> keep to themselves when they have such opinions, or find a
> nice or subtle way to convey them.
>
> And furthermore, I would avoid the term "bury", because it
> ain't PC :-) despite the fact that there seems scant
> difference between moving rocks around and moving dirt around,
> and 99% of the environmental damage done is placing
> non-biodegradable trash in the environment, regardless of how
> it is concealed. Of course, the arguments for bury, which
> you never hear, are that it is less prone to becoming visible
> trash, and less likely to result in visibly destructive
> "hack searches". But I will not even hint a pro-bury platform
> here, as doing so will generate more flames than walking into
> a dungeon full of red dragons, and lord knows, the list don't
> need that, does it?
>
> And, of course, it wouldn't be a mapsurferspeak post without
> mentioning the word semiotics.
>
> Cheers
> Randy
>

On Jan 12, 2008, at 7:46 PM, gwendontoo wrote:

> Calling the idea "Lame" may not be PC, but atleast she has a clear
> understanding of my viewpoint.


... some should have a clear understanding that saying it nicely
would be more appropriate - then again, maybe they don't understand.

The OP asks for opinions, not put-downs.



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I would have to agree with Mosey. Posting an idea asking for thoughts and then not wanting to accept anything that isn't agreeable isn't really being willing to accept input.

Personally I am not really sure I understand what this has to do with letterboxing? If I understand it, there would be some t-shirts buried without logbooks and without rubber stamps. Okay correct me if I am wrong, but I see a few problems here...

- letterboxers do not bury things
- letterboxes contain logbooks
- letterboxes contain rubber stamps.

In some sense of creativity this might be a fun idea of some kind, but where exactly does it fit into letterboxing? And all these people that have become involved in letterboxing because of this, do they understand that letterboxing is about looking for plastic containers with logbooks and rubber stamps, not running around with a shovel looking for buried t-shirts?

SpringChick



----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxxxx
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: [LbNA] Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition T-Shirts?


But that's not what the original poster complained about. Amber said:

"By the way, if you have nothing nice to say, please don't say
anything at all. I already generated a great deal of interest by a
whole bunch of people, and I personally got 14 NEW people involved in
Letterboxing simply by talking about this idea, so once again ... if
you have nothing nice to say .... say nothing.

On the other hand, positve ideas and suggestions are always welcome."

This is basically saying that if a person is going to post a reply with
ANYthing negative, regardless of delivery, they shouldn't post it. Nice try
but that ain't gonna happen on this list. :-)

Maybe try the newboxers list?

I was rather shocked myself with the idea of "burying" t-shirts since
"burying" isn't what letterboxing is really about. In my opinion. But then
I wouldn't want to be called elitist by those who may now be into carrying
around shovels for burying and unburying letterboxes and t-shirts. :-)

My Cockapoo (The Princess) and Pug (Her Pea) are both excited about the idea
tho...........of course, being rather small in stature, they're figuring on
just stealing the t-shirts since I refuse to buy them any fancy doggie
fashionwear. So I'll be busy trying to explain to them that t-shirts are
not the latest thing in first finder certificates. They respectfully
suggest that you consider also burying a knucklebone or two. They figure
that if they get the t-shirt, Elmer the Redbone Coonhound should get
something good too and a buried knucklebone is the best kind of knucklebone.
They add that, of course, whatever box they go in search of will have to
contain TWO t-shirts because while The Pea doesn't mind sharing at all, The
Princess does NOT do sharing.

~~ Mosey ~~

-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LeslieCefali
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 2:46 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition
T-Shirts?

On Jan 12, 2008, at 2:42 PM, gwendontoo wrote:

> In your original post you wrote "Thoughts? Want to help?, "So...What
> do you think?"
>
> Now you want to eliminate any negative responses!

"It's not what you say, but how you say it" that counts.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Yahoo! Groups Links





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi,

I think this is a really cool idea! You can count me
in for Maryland! I'd love to help out. We are really
into this hobby as well. I've gotten by whole family
into it. Sorry you had so many negative people
picking your message apart! I was raised on the same
principle, "If you can't say anything nice then don't
say anything at all!".

Please email all the details. Can't wait to get
started!

The Fuzzytrackers
--- ambercodered wrote:

> Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing
> for a long time and
> I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways
> to get more and
> more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited
> Edition T-Shirts with
> a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people
> helping me, but
> I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every
> state. (I also have a
> few being buried in other countries)
>
> My plan is for people to find them, take a photo
> holding the T-Shirt
> up, put their signature stamp on the back of the
> T-Shirt, and then
> replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can
> then e-mail me
> the photos that they took of the shirt and at the
> end of the year
> I'll give away some cool prizes or something.
>
> Thoughts? Want to help?
>
> I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come
> up with some
> awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles,
> etc. to make it a
> bit more interesting.
>
> To keep anyone from walking away with a T-Shirt, I
> had the shirts
> printed extra small. Believe me, no one will be able
> to fit into one
> of these little fellahs. Besides, why would anyone
> want to take one
> anyway, and ruin the adventure for others? Also if
> they just find it
> and replace it, there's a chance of winning a prize.
>
> Oh, yeah, and for helping me do this I can offer you
> a free T-shirt,
> too, or something. As if the fun of doing it wans't
> enough!
>
> So ... what do you think?
>
> Feel free to e-mail me directly and let me know what
> state you are in
> and what ideas you have for clues, etc. and we'll
> try to work
> something out.
>
> Maybe I'm koo-koo, but my heart's in the right
> place, so that counts
> for something; right?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Amber
>
>



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On Jan 13, 2008, at 11:38 AM, SpringChick wrote:

> Posting an idea asking for thoughts and then not wanting to accept
> anything that isn't agreeable isn't really being willing to accept
> input.



Of course when you ask for input, it isn't all going to be
agreeable....as I previously stated "it's not what you say, it's how
you say it".




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>"If you can't say anything nice then don't
> say anything at all!".

Thumper's dad was an idiot.

Brian
TeamGreenDragon

And you're still missing the point. Amber later clarified her own point by
stating that she only wanted positive feedback. How many "positive" ways
are there for a person to say they feel an idea is lame? There's not really
a "nice" way to say that.

On another note.............my problem with the use of the word "bury" lies
in the fact that Amber seems to be very excited that she's turning on new
people to this pasttime right and left. Is she carefully explaining the
fact that her definition of "bury" might not fit the dictionary definition
of "bury"? My dictionary has "bury" meaning "to put in the ground and cover
with earth." "Bury" is synonymous with neither "hide" nor "place". Maybe
someone else's dictionary is different than mine however.

She might not care enough to be careful with her words but given the fact
that fewer and fewer landowners and land managers are ecstatic about having
letterboxers and geocachers hiding or placing boxes and caches on their
property, and slowly more and more are confiscating and sometimes destroying
boxes and caches, and passing rules or ordinances against them, it's not a
bad idea to be careful with words so that we have the least amount of
irresponsibility as possible out there. A landowner or manager might feel
that digging a hole to put something underground isn't quite the same as
hiding something in an old rotten tree stump. And newbies might not realize
that. As the game becomes a lot more popular, it's just my opinion that
players have to begin becoming a lot more responsible since we're both more
and more in the public eye and we're attracting more and more newbies. The
two kinda go together, eh? And the more a face is out there front & center,
the easier it is to catch a black eye or even two, as some of the political
candidates could affirm right now. :-)

I assumed that there was going to be a stamp made for the box and that the
t-shirt would be the logbook, thus it would be a letterbox. And really, why
not? Anything can be a logbook if it can be stamped, I would think.

It wouldn't interest me because I imagine it being more than a little messy
and it's unlikely the t-shirts are going to stay dry and thus will end up
full of mildew in a short time, and along with that also comes a rather
unpleasant smell. It doesn't sound like a letterbox I'd really want to open
unless I found it fairly quickly after it was hidden. Unless the plan is to
hide these at indoor sites.

I don't see any advantage to perusing sig stamps stamped on a t-shirt over
perusing the sig stamps in a regular logbook. What's so exciting about
looking at them stamped on a t-shirt? And a t-shirt that, in the long run,
the placer isn't even going to be able to wear.

Now that would be kinda cool..........a large enough t-shirt so that the
placer could eventually wear it........it would solve the question that gets
asked every so often on the list about what does one do with their filled
logbooks. Wear them of course! :-) But would they be washable? And a lot
of markers and inks that work nicely on paper or cardstock don't work so
well on fabric. (Stazon works well on fabric.) Of course, that could mean
an awfully large lock 'n' lock. :-) Again, it might work nicely with a box
placed in, say, a retail store where the employees knew what was going on.

As far as someone's comment about letterboxing here in the U.S. not being
anything like it began in the U.K. anyway, who gives a rat's blank? In my
opinion what would count is how letterboxing evolves in the U.S. since the
"original" idea of "how to letterbox" didn't ever show up on American shores
anyway. So, in my opinion, it's never actually been the same game. To me,
that's like comparing baseball and cricket. And if anyone looks at what a
huge amount of the clues in the U.K. are like, booooorrrrring (in my
opinion.) U.S. clues are rarely written similarly to U.K. clues. Of
course, I find cricket dreadfully boring too. Now rugby tho...........I'll
take rugby over football any day. Football players are wusses. (I'm
talking American football, not soccer.)

~~ Mosey ~~

-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LeslieCefali
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:27 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition
T-Shirts?



On Jan 13, 2008, at 11:38 AM, SpringChick wrote:

> Posting an idea asking for thoughts and then not wanting to accept
> anything that isn't agreeable isn't really being willing to accept
> input.



Of course when you ask for input, it isn't all going to be
agreeable....as I previously stated "it's not what you say, it's how
you say it".

touche'

SpringChick wrote: I would have to agree with Mosey. Posting an idea asking for thoughts and then not wanting to accept anything that isn't agreeable isn't really being willing to accept input.

Personally I am not really sure I understand what this has to do with letterboxing? If I understand it, there would be some t-shirts buried without logbooks and without rubber stamps. Okay correct me if I am wrong, but I see a few problems here...

- letterboxers do not bury things
- letterboxes contain logbooks
- letterboxes contain rubber stamps.

In some sense of creativity this might be a fun idea of some kind, but where exactly does it fit into letterboxing? And all these people that have become involved in letterboxing because of this, do they understand that letterboxing is about looking for plastic containers with logbooks and rubber stamps, not running around with a shovel looking for buried t-shirts?

SpringChick

----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxxxx
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: [LbNA] Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition T-Shirts?

But that's not what the original poster complained about. Amber said:

"By the way, if you have nothing nice to say, please don't say
anything at all. I already generated a great deal of interest by a
whole bunch of people, and I personally got 14 NEW people involved in
Letterboxing simply by talking about this idea, so once again ... if
you have nothing nice to say .... say nothing.

On the other hand, positve ideas and suggestions are always welcome."

This is basically saying that if a person is going to post a reply with
ANYthing negative, regardless of delivery, they shouldn't post it. Nice try
but that ain't gonna happen on this list. :-)

Maybe try the newboxers list?

I was rather shocked myself with the idea of "burying" t-shirts since
"burying" isn't what letterboxing is really about. In my opinion. But then
I wouldn't want to be called elitist by those who may now be into carrying
around shovels for burying and unburying letterboxes and t-shirts. :-)

My Cockapoo (The Princess) and Pug (Her Pea) are both excited about the idea
tho...........of course, being rather small in stature, they're figuring on
just stealing the t-shirts since I refuse to buy them any fancy doggie
fashionwear. So I'll be busy trying to explain to them that t-shirts are
not the latest thing in first finder certificates. They respectfully
suggest that you consider also burying a knucklebone or two. They figure
that if they get the t-shirt, Elmer the Redbone Coonhound should get
something good too and a buried knucklebone is the best kind of knucklebone.
They add that, of course, whatever box they go in search of will have to
contain TWO t-shirts because while The Pea doesn't mind sharing at all, The
Princess does NOT do sharing.

~~ Mosey ~~

-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LeslieCefali
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 2:46 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition
T-Shirts?

On Jan 12, 2008, at 2:42 PM, gwendontoo wrote:

> In your original post you wrote "Thoughts? Want to help?, "So...What
> do you think?"
>
> Now you want to eliminate any negative responses!

"It's not what you say, but how you say it" that counts.

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My vote is that letterboxing is perfect just the way it is, and I personally
dont want to invite the kind of people to the hobby that would enjoy
burying or digging up lame T-Shirts. But thats just my vote.








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TGD-you at it again????



--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ambercodered"
wrote:
>
> Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long time
and
> I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get more
and
> more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts
with
> a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping me,
but
> I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also have
a
> few being buried in other countries)
>
> My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-
Shirt
> up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and then
> replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-mail me
> the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the year
> I'll give away some cool prizes or something.
>
> Thoughts? Want to help?
>
> I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with some
> awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make it a
> bit more interesting.
>
> To keep anyone from walking away with a T-Shirt, I had the shirts
> printed extra small. Believe me, no one will be able to fit into
one
> of these little fellahs. Besides, why would anyone want to take one
> anyway, and ruin the adventure for others? Also if they just find
it
> and replace it, there's a chance of winning a prize.
>
> Oh, yeah, and for helping me do this I can offer you a free T-
shirt,
> too, or something. As if the fun of doing it wans't enough!
>
> So ... what do you think?
>
> Feel free to e-mail me directly and let me know what state you are
in
> and what ideas you have for clues, etc. and we'll try to work
> something out.
>
> Maybe I'm koo-koo, but my heart's in the right place, so that
counts
> for something; right?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Amber
>

> TGD-you at it again????

That's exactly what I suspected!

Wisconsin Hiker


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I can vouch for TGD, they were at my pub crawl.....but not for the ENTIRE crawl, they did get there late. Hmmm.......

Debbie Kotlarek wrote: > TGD-you at it again????

That's exactly what I suspected!

Wisconsin Hiker

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--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Sue" wrote:
>
>
> TGD-you at it again????
>

Alright you got me. I'm guessing you "pinged" my ISP addy.

I've always been interested AND amused by how much commotion a really
stupid idea could generate on this list.

Brian
TeamGreenDragon

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Sue" wrote:
>
>
> TGD-you at it again????
>

> Alright you got me. I'm guessing you "pinged" my ISP addy.

> I've always been interested AND amused by how much commotion a really
> stupid idea could generate on this list.

> Brian
> TeamGreenDragon


.
Well, maybe "Sue" did, but I didn't do any technical research. It just
seemed like your kind of shenanigans. Then what made me even more
suspicious was the comment "Beside,s I have ten people in Chicago that
already offered to help." I know a lot of boxers in that area and I found
it hard to believe they'd get involved with something as silly as burying a
t-shirt.

Stirring up the pot is what you're good at! Hope you had fun at the Pub
Crawl - sorry we missed it this time...

Wisconsin Hiker





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Hee!

That's just what I was telling the folks on the Texas list this
afternoon. That, and that I was waiting for GeoGeorgia to poke her
head in. Speaking of that darling pot-stirrer, it's almost
Valentine's Day! I'm wondering if she's still mooning after that
elusive letterboxer Flat Tire.

dewberry

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Brian, Ryan & Lori"
wrote:
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Sue" wrote:
> >
> >
> > TGD-you at it again????
> >
>
> Alright you got me. I'm guessing you "pinged" my ISP addy.
>
> I've always been interested AND amused by how much commotion a really
> stupid idea could generate on this list.
>
> Brian
> TeamGreenDragon
>

That's funny, cause I've had to dig up a letterbox or two. I wonder who planted them?


-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "SpringChick"
> I would have to agree with Mosey. Posting an idea asking for thoughts and then
> not wanting to accept anything that isn't agreeable isn't really being willing
> to accept input.
>
> Personally I am not really sure I understand what this has to do with
> letterboxing? If I understand it, there would be some t-shirts buried without
> logbooks and without rubber stamps. Okay correct me if I am wrong, but I see a
> few problems here...
>
> - letterboxers do not bury things
> - letterboxes contain logbooks
> - letterboxes contain rubber stamps.
>
> In some sense of creativity this might be a fun idea of some kind, but where
> exactly does it fit into letterboxing? And all these people that have become
> involved in letterboxing because of this, do they understand that letterboxing
> is about looking for plastic containers with logbooks and rubber stamps, not
> running around with a shovel looking for buried t-shirts?
>
> SpringChick

Of course you are right. I would think silence on the topic would communicate disinterest as well as any post saying "no thanks". So IMO even posting "no thanks" is a bit rude anything beyond that is rude.


-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: LeslieCefali
>
> On Jan 13, 2008, at 11:38 AM, SpringChick wrote:
>
> > Posting an idea asking for thoughts and then not wanting to accept
> > anything that isn't agreeable isn't really being willing to accept
> > input.
>
>
>
> Of course when you ask for input, it isn't all going to be
> agreeable....as I previously stated "it's not what you say, it's how
> you say it".

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Brian, Ryan & Lori"
wrote:
>
> >"If you can't say anything nice then don't
> > say anything at all!".

That's not how it goes! Geesh, people, get it right.

"If you can't say anything nice, come sit by me"


> Thumper's dad was an idiot.
>
> Brian
> TeamGreenDragon
>

Brian, hon, how many times do I have to tell you? Thumper's mom said
it. Dad wanted to eat Thumper and his siblings, but Mom kicked him
to the curb. Blame the mother for this madness!!

hehehe

So what exactly is getting buried, hypodermic needles, tee shirts or rabbits. This list is getting so confusing...Chuck and Amy

alwayschaos wrote: --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Brian, Ryan & Lori"
wrote:
>
> >"If you can't say anything nice then don't
> > say anything at all!".

That's not how it goes! Geesh, people, get it right.

"If you can't say anything nice, come sit by me"

> Thumper's dad was an idiot.
>
> Brian
> TeamGreenDragon
>

Brian, hon, how many times do I have to tell you? Thumper's mom said
it. Dad wanted to eat Thumper and his siblings, but Mom kicked him
to the curb. Blame the mother for this madness!!

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...my dead relative! LOL!

Chuck & Amy wrote: So what exactly is getting buried, hypodermic needles, tee shirts or rabbits. This list is getting so confusing...Chuck and Amy

alwayschaos wrote: --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Brian, Ryan & Lori"
wrote:
>
> >"If you can't say anything nice then don't
> > say anything at all!".

That's not how it goes! Geesh, people, get it right.

"If you can't say anything nice, come sit by me"

> Thumper's dad was an idiot.
>
> Brian
> TeamGreenDragon
>

Brian, hon, how many times do I have to tell you? Thumper's mom said
it. Dad wanted to eat Thumper and his siblings, but Mom kicked him
to the curb. Blame the mother for this madness!!

hehehe

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hey, i'll consider it for central maine. but i really stink at
making clues. would need some help there. and i have (i think) safe
spot to hide one. contact me, i'll tell you the location, and maybe
we can do the clues. could be fun.




--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ambercodered"
wrote:
>
> Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long time
and
> I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get more
and
> more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts
with
> a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping me,
but
> I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also have
a
> few being buried in other countries)
>
> My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-
Shirt
> up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and then
> replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-mail
me
> the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the year
> I'll give away some cool prizes or something.
>
> Thoughts? Want to help?
>
> I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with some
> awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make it
a
> bit more interesting.
>
> To keep anyone from walking away with a T-Shirt, I had the shirts
> printed extra small. Believe me, no one will be able to fit into
one
> of these little fellahs. Besides, why would anyone want to take
one
> anyway, and ruin the adventure for others? Also if they just find
it
> and replace it, there's a chance of winning a prize.
>
> Oh, yeah, and for helping me do this I can offer you a free T-
shirt,
> too, or something. As if the fun of doing it wans't enough!
>
> So ... what do you think?
>
> Feel free to e-mail me directly and let me know what state you are
in
> and what ideas you have for clues, etc. and we'll try to work
> something out.
>
> Maybe I'm koo-koo, but my heart's in the right place, so that
counts
> for something; right?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Amber
>

put a cloth bag of plain old baking soda in the box. works great.

natives will use any animal part we can get. i've had people give me
turkey wings, fresh kill (yea, i know, gross. but it's a cultural
thing. i hate grits :) ) and i use baking soda to dry them, cut down
the smell, and keep the bugs out. if it'll work for THAT, a t-shirt
in a plastic box should be easy



--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ambercodered"
wrote:
>
> Good point. Any ideas on how to keep that from happening? Either
> include an air freshner or maybe keep the shirt sealed in a
seperate
> freezer bag?
>
> Also, the shirts will be removed in 6-12 months and cna be
replaced
> by a photo or sticker that represents the shirts.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> A
>
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, RMORGAN762@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Count me in, I can do that in Ohio easily.? I'm worried about
the
> shirt picking up a musty smell however.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ambercodered
> > To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 7:47 pm
> > Subject: [LbNA] Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition T-
> Shirts?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey, everyone. I've been involved in Letterboxing for a long
time
> and
> >
> > I just love it and I've been trying to think of ways to get more
> and
> >
> > more people involved. So I printed 100 Limited Edition T-Shirts
> with
> >
> > a cool design on them. I've gotten a bunch of people helping me,
> but
> >
> > I would like to bury at least 1 shirt in every state. (I also
have
> a
> >
> > few being buried in other countries)
> >
> >
> >
> > My plan is for people to find them, take a photo holding the T-
> Shirt
> >
> > up, put their signature stamp on the back of the T-Shirt, and
then
> >
> > replace the T-Shirt for others to find. Everyone can then e-mail
me
> >
> > the photos that they took of the shirt and at the end of the
year
> >
> > I'll give away some cool prizes or something.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thoughts? Want to help?
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll e-mail you a T-Shirt. Your job would be to come up with
some
> >
> > awesome clues and maybe some ciphers and riddles, etc. to make
it a
> >
> > bit more interesting.
> >
> >
> >
> > To keep anyone from walking away with a T-Shirt, I had the
shirts
> >
> > printed extra small. Believe me, no one will be able to fit into
> one
> >
> > of these little fellahs. Besides, why would anyone want to take
one
> >
> > anyway, and ruin the adventure for others? Also if they just
find
> it
> >
> > and replace it, there's a chance of winning a prize.
> >
> >
> >
> > Oh, yeah, and for helping me do this I can offer you a free T-
> shirt,
> >
> > too, or something. As if the fun of doing it wans't enough!
> >
> >
> >
> > So ... what do you think?
> >
> >
> >
> > Feel free to e-mail me directly and let me know what state you
are
> in
> >
> > and what ideas you have for clues, etc. and we'll try to work
> >
> > something out.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe I'm koo-koo, but my heart's in the right place, so that
> counts
> >
> > for something; right?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > Amber
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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wabbitz???

wabbitz???

did sum buddy say wabbitz???

~~ elmer da redbonedcoondawg hoo tinkz litterboxing for bareed wabbitz wud
bee jus' spiffee ~~



-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chuck & Amy
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 7:47 AM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Would you like to help me bury Limited Edition
T-Shirts?


So what exactly is getting buried, hypodermic needles, tee shirts or
rabbits. This list is getting so confusing...Chuck and Amy

alwayschaos wrote: --- In
letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Brian, Ryan & Lori"
wrote:
>
> >"If you can't say anything nice then don't
> > say anything at all!".

That's not how it goes! Geesh, people, get it right.

"If you can't say anything nice, come sit by me"

> Thumper's dad was an idiot.
>
> Brian
> TeamGreenDragon
>

Brian, hon, how many times do I have to tell you? Thumper's mom said
it. Dad wanted to eat Thumper and his siblings, but Mom kicked him
to the curb. Blame the mother for this madness!!

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